Apple used to be the top dog in podcasting, but YouTube and Spotify have now overtaken them.
Even though Apple introduced podcasts back in 2005, they were slow to adapt to new technology like podcast subscriptions and a web app.
This slowness let YouTube and Spotify catch up, and now YouTube is the most popular platform for listening to podcasts in the US.
Some people believe that Apple's CEO needs to be more forward-thinking and innovative to keep up with the competition.